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I've glanced a little at some of the materials on worldofdarkness.com and other websites related to the new Vampire game. I'm actually a little disappointed at how familiar a lot of it seems to be.

That includes, of course, White Wolf's Latinity:

The catechism of the Lancea Sanctum (literally, "Holy Spear") is
that the covenant's members are the ideological descendants of
Longinus, the Roman centurion who used his spear to prod Christ on
the cross. According to the covenant's dogma, some of Christ's blood
dripped onto the soldier, and this blood gave the centurion eternal
life. It also carried with it, however, divine retribution, and
though Longinus' act revealed Christ's divinity, it did so after an
act of faithlessness on the soldier’s part. Thereafter, Longinus was
cursed to live eternally, but he could walk only at night and
subsist only on the same blood that had proved his undoing. [etc.]


There is, perhaps, much to provoke one's mockery here, but I am here concerned simply with the phrase "Lancea Sanctum" (it should be "...Sancta"), which involves an adjective-noun agreement mistake that you probably wouldn't even need a whole month's worth of Latin class to avoid making.

In fact, after just three or four classes students should have this notion basically down; they would probably tend to err in the direction of making all adjectives agree with nouns by having them end with the same letter, thereby getting this particular phrase right by sheer accident.

In short, no one who knows anything about the language whatsoever could have made this mistake. Chances are that the writers could have stepped out onto the streets of Atlanta and got some passerby to point it out to them in the time it took to smoke a couple of cigarettes.

Which makes one ask: Why would someone who doesn't know anything at all about a foreign language think it was a good idea to use it in print?

Was this, too, part of God's curse?

Date: 2004-07-12 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-sjc.livejournal.com
I have heard that things are actually much different, but I'm in agreement that they look depressingly similar.

Date: 2004-07-12 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wsmith.livejournal.com
It's all part of his terrible, dark fate. Cursed with eternal life and poor grammar. It must have been very tough for him, leaping from the shadows and being ridiculed by second year high school students.

Date: 2004-07-12 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exquiscadavre.livejournal.com
Its part of the horrible curse God has placed on WW, which also prevents them from offering adequate indexing, or obtaining proofreaders.

Date: 2004-07-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quislibet.livejournal.com
That was certainly hard for me!

Date: 2004-07-12 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quislibet.livejournal.com
Actualyl, three's a prefectly oogd indxe no p. XX.

Date: 2004-07-12 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quislibet.livejournal.com
Similar enough that when one reads that the Ventrue have Dominate and "Resilience," it sounds like some other game company trying unsuccessfully to avoid copyright infringement.

Date: 2004-07-12 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-sjc.livejournal.com
You can make a Thinkin', Talkin', or Fightin' Challenge! The Van Helsing Society of Byzantium, Maine LIVES!!!

Date: 2004-07-12 01:51 pm (UTC)

Latin

Date: 2004-07-12 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=2619572&postcount=39

Date: 2004-07-12 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] humbleminion.livejournal.com
White Wolf has made an awful lot of money writing about things they know nothing about. Basic facts about every country in the world other than certain selected parts of the USA, for instance. Why should the languages they use be any different?

Re: Latin

Date: 2004-07-13 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quislibet.livejournal.com
Thank you, kind stranger!

Date: 2004-07-13 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phaidros.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm just glad you ended with "Which makes one ask" instead of "which begs the question"

ARGH! And we're losing that battle. In ten years, the phrase actually will mean what the barbarian hordes think it does. Curse you malleability of language!
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